CIA Women did play a key role in bringing down Bin Laden – Zero Dark Thirty


Former CIA Officials Who Oversaw Torture Pick Apart Inaccuracies In Zero Dark Thirty

January 29, 2013 RSS Feed Print

A Pakistani farmer works in his field near the site of the demolished compound of slain al-Qaeda leader Osama bin Laden in Abbottabad.
A Pakistani farmer works in his field near the site of the demolished compound of slain
al-Qaeda leader Osama bin Laden in Abbottabad.

Three former top-ranking Central Intelligence Agency officials picked apart plot lines
of Zero Dark Thirty Tuesday, including the film’s depiction of enhanced interrogation,
which the former officials say failed to accurately chronicle how the events played out
during the hunt for Osama bin Laden.

Speaking at the American Enterprise Institute in Washington, Gen. Michael Hayden,
former director of the CIA, John Rizzo, former deputy counsel of the CIA, and
Jose Rodriguez, the former director of the National Clandestine Service at the CIA,
seemed mostly satisfied with the overall narrative laid out in the film.

But all three men, each of whom had a guiding hand in the use of enhanced
interrogation techniques after 9/11 and controversially portrayed in several
of the movie’s scenes, said they took issue with certain inaccuracies in the film.

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Throughout the first hour of the movie, a CIA officer named “Dan” appears to be able
to ask a detainee any question that comes to mind, and perform any interrogation
technique at his disposal if the detainee fails to give a satisfactory answer.
Among the techniques shown is putting the detainee inside a box barely
big enough for him to fit when it was closed.

Rizzo said those scenes weren’t quite right.

“Those interrogators were not allowed to ad lib…
There was a meticulous procedure to undertake,” he said.

The former CIA lawyer also took issue with the portrayal of “the box.”
While he acknowledged that the technique was “not pleasant,” Rizzo noted
that the CIA often used a much larger box in which detainees could stand,
and that the smaller box the agency employed was not the same size as the
one portrayed in the film.

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Rodriguez also said that the interrogation shown in the film lasted much longer
than it had in real life. Enhanced interrogation of detainees post-9/11, he said,
mostly lasted just a few days, or in the case of more high profile
terrorists, a few weeks.

“But it was a finite amount of time,” he said.

Rodriguez said evidence of this fact is that detainees often figured out how long
their torture would last. Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, for example, named
“the principal architect of the 9/11 attacks” by the 9/11 Commission Report,
realized that agents were allowed to waterboard him for up to 10 seconds,
according to Rodriguez.

“After a while [KSM] figured it out and he started to count with his fingers
up to 10 to let us
know that the time was up,” said Rodriguez.

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Waterboarding was a technique used post-9/11 in which water was poured over a
detainee’s cloth-covered face, making him feel as if he was about to drown.

Rodriguez also argued that the film failed to note why torture was effective.

One high-profile detainee, according to Rodriguez, had recommended to the CIA
that it use these tactics on all al-Qaeda members because “they would not be expected
by Allah to go beyond their capabilities.”

“Once they felt they were [tortured long enough] they would become compliant” and
share the information they had with the agency, he said.

“And they’d do so without sin,” added Hayden. This narrative, the former CIA chief
told the audience, was important for his own soul-searching after
CIA Inspector General report in 2009 was critical of the techniques used,
and President Barack Obama essentially discontinued all use of enhanced
interrogation through an executive order later that year.

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“I was not trying to prove the point that what we were doing was universally
applicable for all detainees and circumstances,” said Hayden. “It was particularly
well-suited to this group.”

Another part of the film Hayden seemed genuinely pained by was the portrayal of
CIA agent Jennifer Matthews (“Jessica” in the film), who died in 2009 after a
suicide bombing along at Camp Chapman in Khost, Afghanistan killed her and
six other CIA operatives. In the movie, Matthews’ eagerness to land a source
appears to lead to the operatives’ deaths. Hayden said he
was “disturbed” by that portrayal.

“Jennifer was a wonderful officer… She was in this before hunting bin Laden
was cool,” he said. “I understand artistically they wanted to create some sort
of juxtaposition between her and [the main character CIA officer] Maya.
But it was very unfortunate and very unfair that she was portrayed that way.”

Rizzo agreed, saying that Matthews was “a far more complex and interesting
character in real life” (and “far more attractive,” he also noted). Rizzo related
that after 9/11, Matthews had been put on a list of CIA agents held partially
accountable for failing to stop the attacks. Her inclusion on that list had
“haunted her” for years afterwards, he said.

What was accurate about the inclusion of Matthews, according to Hayden,
was that bin Laden was brought down by women.

“It was an incredible band of sisters that really spearheaded the UBL
[Osama bin Laden] cell,” he said, noting that most of CIA operatives
who briefed him on the al-Qaeda leader over the years were female.

Another scene from Zero Dark Thirty that has raised questions shows a
CIA officer using agency funds to buy a Lamborghini for a Kuwaiti in
order to acquire an important phone number.
But Rodriguez said the scene wasn’t true.

“I don’t ever remember approving the purchase of an
Italian sports car to give to
anybody,” he said, a remark that elicited laughter in the room.

Elizabeth Flock is a staff writer for U.S. News & World Report.

You can follow her on Twitter or Facebook or reach her at eflock@usnews.com.

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 CIA, Osama bin Laden

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